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Dale H
Joined: Sep 25, 2010
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posted on Jan 14, 2011 01:57 AM:
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Many locos in conventional exhibit jack rabbit starts on the first throttle rung (about 6 volts). This is because most E units need this much voltage to work. Inserting a diode string in this example 4 pairs in series between the reverse board and motors will drop voltage to the motor by about 2.4 volts whenever current is pulled through it. So at the first throttle rung the E unit,lights and smoke unit will receive the 6 volts but the motor will receive 2.4 volts less than before. The voltage lag is maintained as the throttle is increased. The top speed is thus decreased. 4 or 5 pair usually does the trick. This can be used in both single and dual motored engines. For more information on dropping voltage with diodes please see my post in the electrical Forum

Here are some 6 amp diodes usually available in the parts drawer at Radio Shack. Cost is about 70 cents each. Electrical supply houses have them cheaper in quantity.





Cut the leads a bit





Bend the leads making little hooks at the end,then make 2 chains of 4,crimping with a pliers, all diodes in the same direction (+ is marked with a hash mark) then lay the 2 chains side by side in the opposite direction.






Solder all the inner connections





Add 2 # 18 wires and solder to the 2 ends





tape assembly with good electrical tape.





To fit in some circumstances the diode string can be bent U shaped if needed






The string will go into a PS1 PRR S2 RK tender. The Yellow and white wire go to the motor from the E unit. The yellow wire is cut






After splicing and insulating the wires so the string is in series with the cut wires, it is secured with tie wraps. In operation the string will get warm. Wattage generated will be 2.4 times the motor amperage drawn. Typically 3-6 watts. So use care with plastic shells,give it a little room to breathe. Tapping the 2 ends of the string the voltage across would be + or - 2.4 volts ( polarity depending on engine direction) DC whenever current is pulled through the string. With this voltage a back up light or marker lights LEDs or bulbs could be added.





While in here it is a good time to upgrade the cheap stock 8 ohm speaker used.





Here is a comparison of the stock speaker with a Digital Dynamics replacement. Since it is much larger it will not fit in all applications. This however is a roomy tender.









The new speaker is glued in place with gasket silicone and wired in. The new speaker generates more volume and a richer sound. When replacing speakers always match impedance,normally stamped on the back of the speaker.





On PS1 steam engines adding diodes may put the chuff out of sync with the speed. since this is a turbine and does not chuff ,it is not an issue. The diodes will work on most conventional engines,single or dual motored if they can be fit in.

Dale H



 

   

JohnBoy
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posted on Jan 14, 2011 07:14 AM:
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Excellent walk-through Dale, thank you very much.

John
 

   

Brother_Love
Joined: Jan 3, 2013
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posted on Jan 3, 2013 02:17 PM:
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Dale,
Will the diode fix work with 2Rail? As you can tell, I am electrically challenged.
Thanks, Malcolm
 

   

Dale H
Joined: Sep 25, 2010
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posted on Jan 5, 2013 02:07 PM:
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Hello Malcolm

Yes,they will work with 2 rail or in any circuit AC or DC. You can also slow accessories down in the same manner. See the topic "dropping voltage with diodes". For accessories powered by a DC supply only a single string in one direction in proper polarity is needed.

Dale

 

   

Brother_Love
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posted on Jan 6, 2013 06:52 PM:
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Dale,
Many thanks, malcolm
 

   





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